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T O P I C R E V I E Wangel4845I have my chart ruler which is venus in saggitarius in the 3rd house SQUARING my 3R jupiter in virgo R in the 12th house. any opinions on this? I'm aware of venus in sag in the 3rd house (i' m a singer, writing comes very easily for me, i've done art, i used to be a dancer, but my main strengths are singing and writing and art. i love long distance travel and wish i could do more of it, I pretty much fit everything what venus in sag talks about 80% of it i think theres more of venus in sag (my chart ruler in me). i also know how jupiter R in the 12th house is about i love spirituality and do practice mediumship, demonic energies, and i love the idea of life after death in fact i can handle and am very accepting of ones death in my life as i understand like after death i would love to read more into shamanism). anyways.......i can't see what is the affliction i have within myself. what exactly does it mean to have your chart ruler afflicted?------------------Sun Capricorn, Moon Aries, Libra RisingRandallBump!next to neptuneI see someone over excited, over argumentative, over philosophically, very outgoing, and maybe even over talkative... someone who is a little bit "too much" in social situations, but still somewhat likable and popular. Maybe even an exentric personality angel4845 quote:Originally posted by next to neptune:I see someone over excited, over argumentative, over philosophically, very outgoing, and maybe even over talkative... someone who is a little bit "too much" in social situations, but still somewhat likable and popular. Maybe even an exentric personality thanks next to neptune!! I can be very outgoing with friends but eventually i love to be locked up in my cave alone. but yes when I'm with friends i can be super excited and talkative and over argumentative. Julz87Angel, my chart ruler is Venus as well, its opposite Jupiter and I am the same way some people even described me as "overwhelming" and I'm like well excuse me for beings o happy around you jeez.SDragonI have this aspect and it's the one aspect that I've never really understood in my chart. My Venus in Taurus sqaures my Jupiter in Leo which should be somewhat workable since both are fairly good planets in their signs. I read somewhere that the native needs to acquire a more broadened understanding of the male/feminine nature. That sometimes the person finds it hard to understand the need for balance and can either require social events/interactions to always be positive or somehow be more comfortable only when women (planetary influences of venus and jupiter) are in a benevolent/happy emotional state which is not reality.The hard aspects just means that an adjustment in perspective and understanding can pave the way towards a more balanced approach to life and then the true benevolence of Venus-Jupiter can shine through because we can extend its energy without requiring that others respond to it in a positive manner. If they do, great, if they don't, great.Maybe?angel4845 quote:Originally posted by Julz87:Angel, my chart ruler is Venus as well, its opposite Jupiter and I am the same way some people even described me as "overwhelming" and I'm like well excuse me for beings o happy around you jeez.yeah i definitely know how you feel people indeed find my overwhelming also they can find be aggressive because i have many planets in capricorn and my chart ruler is an aggressive sign. do you also have jupiter in the 12th?angel4845 quote:Originally posted by SDragon:I have this aspect and it's the one aspect that I've never really understood in my chart. My Venus in Taurus sqaures my Jupiter in Leo which should be somewhat workable since both are fairly good planets in their signs. I read somewhere that the native needs to acquire a more broadened understanding of the male/feminine nature. That sometimes the person finds it hard to understand the need for balance and can either require social events/interactions to always be positive or somehow be more comfortable only when women (planetary influences of venus and jupiter) are in a benevolent/happy emotional state which is not reality.The hard aspects just means that an adjustment in perspective and understanding can pave the way towards a more balanced approach to life and then the true benevolence of Venus-Jupiter can shine through because we can extend its energy without requiring that others respond to it in a positive manner. If they do, great, if they don't, great.Maybe?you really think so? i always thought that if we have the square we would have a hard time being kind and giving to everyone including people that don't deserve it. what i read is that we hate be giving and being kind to people that we think and assume that DONT deserve any of our kindness and generosity. which is really true, i can't stand especially while growing up giving my love and showing my generosity to people who don't at all deserve it due to betrayal, trust issues, or how they seem to be as people BUT at the same time i give everyone a chance even if i think they don't deserve any of my generosity but if they betray me MULTIPLE times i stop being generous to them EVEN if they apologize i just cut them off after multiple times of giving them a chance. i don't know.....this placement is so hard to understand you know what i mean??ughhhhh plus my jupiter is R in the 12th house and that's something else I'm trying so hard to figure out. i mean I'm very analytical of my mind, unconscious, my spiritual side and all that has happened to me in the past i even talk to myself due to my jupiter in 12th R! i know that's where its coming from.....anyways ughhhh what house is your venus in?anyways i think what your saying has meaning for sure i can see that, because honestly i've learned to accept that not everyone will approve my generosity or even give a damn about it later i simply stopped caring but at the same time i hate wasting my energy on those that betrayed me so many times and don't deserve it at all and i don't like giving money to homeless people at all i hate it!!!!!!!! except if i have little change in my pocket and there asking me while I'm walking i will feel FORCED to do it. but when it comes to animals I'm very giving even to dogs i don't like dogs personally. ------------------Sun Capricorn, Moon Aries, Libra Rising12muddyFrom what I've seen, when I see aspects between venus and jupiter, I think of excess (jupiter) in venus-ruled areas (like love/affection, luxuries...etc..). I know some who have the hard aspects and they tend to be very generous to those around them, and well, they spend a lot. RandallAgreed about the generosity. angel4845 quote:Originally posted by 12muddy:From what I've seen, when I see aspects between venus and jupiter, I think of excess (jupiter) in venus-ruled areas (like love/affection, luxuries...etc..). I know some who have the hard aspects and they tend to be very generous to those around them, and well, they spend a lot. yes i can be to those very important to me but there's a part of me that i shouldn't be generous to everybody due to fear of being taken advantage of (12th house in jupiter R) possibly??angel4845Just wanted to bump this again and add somethingI was reading a lot about venus in the 3rd house how it refers to someone with talent and is obsessed with style writing and creative talent in dance.Would this placement INHIBIT my actions to perform as a singer? or make me the type of a singer that is introverted and calm? I find myself singing music that is calm and laid back and not so much in your face for example like pop music or rock. I get very insecure to and over estimate myself as a singer at times. (Jupiter in virgo in the 12th house retrograde).------------------Sun Capricorn, Moon Aries, Libra RisingSeimeiwhat exactly does it mean to have your chart ruler afflicted? Afflicted to me is a very archaic term and should be discarded in modern astrology. Squares bring tension and tension is required for growth. A square between Venus and Jupiter is much less difficult than a square between Venus and Saturn. Thou art blessed. and with Jupiter now in Virgo have thee a blessed year of inner growth--------------------angel4845 quote:Originally posted by Seimei:what exactly does it mean to have your chart ruler afflicted? Afflicted to me is a very archaic term and should be discarded in modern astrology. Squares bring tension and tension is required for growth. A square between Venus and Jupiter is much less difficult than a square between Venus and Saturn. Thou art blessed. and with Jupiter now in Virgo have thee a blessed year of inner growthThanks seimei ! I'll definetely take it into account ------------------Sun Capricorn, Moon Aries, Libra RisingcharlieI have Venus sq Jupiter and Uranus. I could be described as eccentric, saying things that rock the boat in the completely wrong situation and very generous. Maybe too generous..I like luxurious things and live by "quality before quantity" which means I might be a tad too generous in that department as well LOL
any opinions on this? I'm aware of venus in sag in the 3rd house (i' m a singer, writing comes very easily for me, i've done art, i used to be a dancer, but my main strengths are singing and writing and art. i love long distance travel and wish i could do more of it, I pretty much fit everything what venus in sag talks about 80% of it i think theres more of venus in sag (my chart ruler in me). i also know how jupiter R in the 12th house is about i love spirituality and do practice mediumship, demonic energies, and i love the idea of life after death in fact i can handle and am very accepting of ones death in my life as i understand like after death i would love to read more into shamanism). anyways.......i can't see what is the affliction i have within myself.
what exactly does it mean to have your chart ruler afflicted?------------------Sun Capricorn, Moon Aries, Libra Rising
Maybe even an exentric personality
quote:Originally posted by next to neptune:I see someone over excited, over argumentative, over philosophically, very outgoing, and maybe even over talkative... someone who is a little bit "too much" in social situations, but still somewhat likable and popular. Maybe even an exentric personality
thanks next to neptune!! I can be very outgoing with friends but eventually i love to be locked up in my cave alone. but yes when I'm with friends i can be super excited and talkative and over argumentative.
I read somewhere that the native needs to acquire a more broadened understanding of the male/feminine nature. That sometimes the person finds it hard to understand the need for balance and can either require social events/interactions to always be positive or somehow be more comfortable only when women (planetary influences of venus and jupiter) are in a benevolent/happy emotional state which is not reality.
The hard aspects just means that an adjustment in perspective and understanding can pave the way towards a more balanced approach to life and then the true benevolence of Venus-Jupiter can shine through because we can extend its energy without requiring that others respond to it in a positive manner. If they do, great, if they don't, great.
Maybe?
quote:Originally posted by Julz87:Angel, my chart ruler is Venus as well, its opposite Jupiter and I am the same way some people even described me as "overwhelming" and I'm like well excuse me for beings o happy around you jeez.
yeah i definitely know how you feel people indeed find my overwhelming also they can find be aggressive because i have many planets in capricorn and my chart ruler is an aggressive sign. do you also have jupiter in the 12th?
quote:Originally posted by SDragon:I have this aspect and it's the one aspect that I've never really understood in my chart. My Venus in Taurus sqaures my Jupiter in Leo which should be somewhat workable since both are fairly good planets in their signs. I read somewhere that the native needs to acquire a more broadened understanding of the male/feminine nature. That sometimes the person finds it hard to understand the need for balance and can either require social events/interactions to always be positive or somehow be more comfortable only when women (planetary influences of venus and jupiter) are in a benevolent/happy emotional state which is not reality.The hard aspects just means that an adjustment in perspective and understanding can pave the way towards a more balanced approach to life and then the true benevolence of Venus-Jupiter can shine through because we can extend its energy without requiring that others respond to it in a positive manner. If they do, great, if they don't, great.Maybe?
you really think so? i always thought that if we have the square we would have a hard time being kind and giving to everyone including people that don't deserve it. what i read is that we hate be giving and being kind to people that we think and assume that DONT deserve any of our kindness and generosity. which is really true, i can't stand especially while growing up giving my love and showing my generosity to people who don't at all deserve it due to betrayal, trust issues, or how they seem to be as people BUT at the same time i give everyone a chance even if i think they don't deserve any of my generosity but if they betray me MULTIPLE times i stop being generous to them EVEN if they apologize i just cut them off after multiple times of giving them a chance.
i don't know.....this placement is so hard to understand you know what i mean??
ughhhhh plus my jupiter is R in the 12th house and that's something else I'm trying so hard to figure out. i mean I'm very analytical of my mind, unconscious, my spiritual side and all that has happened to me in the past i even talk to myself due to my jupiter in 12th R! i know that's where its coming from.....anyways ughhhh what house is your venus in?
anyways i think what your saying has meaning for sure i can see that, because honestly i've learned to accept that not everyone will approve my generosity or even give a damn about it later i simply stopped caring but at the same time i hate wasting my energy on those that betrayed me so many times and don't deserve it at all and i don't like giving money to homeless people at all i hate it!!!!!!!! except if i have little change in my pocket and there asking me while I'm walking i will feel FORCED to do it. but when it comes to animals I'm very giving even to dogs i don't like dogs personally. ------------------Sun Capricorn, Moon Aries, Libra Rising
quote:Originally posted by 12muddy:From what I've seen, when I see aspects between venus and jupiter, I think of excess (jupiter) in venus-ruled areas (like love/affection, luxuries...etc..). I know some who have the hard aspects and they tend to be very generous to those around them, and well, they spend a lot.
yes i can be to those very important to me but there's a part of me that i shouldn't be generous to everybody due to fear of being taken advantage of (12th house in jupiter R) possibly??
I was reading a lot about venus in the 3rd house how it refers to someone with talent and is obsessed with style writing and creative talent in dance.
Would this placement INHIBIT my actions to perform as a singer? or make me the type of a singer that is introverted and calm? I find myself singing music that is calm and laid back and not so much in your face for example like pop music or rock. I get very insecure to and over estimate myself as a singer at times. (Jupiter in virgo in the 12th house retrograde).
------------------Sun Capricorn, Moon Aries, Libra Rising
Afflicted to me is a very archaic term and should be discarded in modern astrology. Squares bring tension and tension is required for growth. A square between Venus and Jupiter is much less difficult than a square between Venus and Saturn. Thou art blessed. and with Jupiter now in Virgo have thee a blessed year of inner growth
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quote:Originally posted by Seimei:what exactly does it mean to have your chart ruler afflicted? Afflicted to me is a very archaic term and should be discarded in modern astrology. Squares bring tension and tension is required for growth. A square between Venus and Jupiter is much less difficult than a square between Venus and Saturn. Thou art blessed. and with Jupiter now in Virgo have thee a blessed year of inner growth
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